hello, would it be possible to add an option to the installer for people like me that do not need or want to farmat disks. I use subvolumes and i have a main OS handling grub aswell… The installer has no option to let me install on /mnt that i previously mounted myself. Like this we would be able to install on subvolumes .
I pushed a commit that should do this but I’m not gonna package it before some testing
curl -fSL https://bitbucket.org/archlabslinux/installer/raw/master/archlabs-installer -o /usr/bin/archlabs-installer archlabs-installer -n -b BOOT_DEV -r ROOT_DEV
We only make you format the root partition, I don’t know much about btrfs but I do know you can expect issues if you install overtop of an existing OS root without formatting, but the option is there now.
hmm could you add just a mountpoint option? like where we can specify /mnt as mountpoint and it will install there… i am asking that because i use btrfs subvolumes and they are not actual devices shown as /dev/xxx
You can already specify the mountpoint with an environment variable, this has been the case for a long time
That doesn’t remove the need to know what devices are what though.
I can do like you’re saying sure; but you’ll have to figure out the fstab, bootloader config, and anything else that relies on knowing what device/partition/subvolume is used where.
If btrfs subvolumes are not a block device file in
/dev/ then where are they? I’m fairly sure they’ll be in there as that’s the “device” pseudo-filesystem, where else could they be really!?.
Subvolumes are file extant-based and so do not expose themselves as devices.
If the installer didn’t try to format the device in the partitioning section then that would allow the user to pre-mount the subvolume like this:
mount -o subvol=archlabs /dev/sda1 /mnt
Then run the installer and tell it that /mnt contains subvolumes and so shouldn’t be formatted or assigned to a partition automatically:
This was done in my first reply to this thread
I was under the impression this had been tried and did not work.
I just know that some things will fail due to the installer needing something to query for (mostly) UUID.
Surely once mounted this must have a file path? Similar to LVM?
Additional unrelated question, does btrfs require a supporting bootloader?
No, the subvolume just appears under
/mnt. The subvolume identity is visible in
/dev/vda1 /mnt btrfs rw,relatime,space_cache,subvolid=256,subvol=/archlabs 0 0
^ That also shows how the fstab line should be written (
gen-fstab accommodates btrfs subvolumes).
All that is needed is a kernel command line option to identify the root subvolume, for example:
Ok I think I understand.
Would this not work as the root device passed in, that way we have something to
I can tweak around with the settings/script as issues are encountered, right now we just need someone to take the plunge and try an install with the current version of the installer.
I’ll try it now…
If you have a btfs setup, post me your
lsblk -fa output, just curious.
If this goes on for a while I’ll get my shit together and setup btfs on a system to try.
Truncated (sorry but it’s from a VM without copy&paste):
└─vda1 btrfs $uuid 9.5G 0% /mnt
$uuid is the UUID of /dev/vda1 but
blkid also lists a
UUID_SUB for the subvolume.
That’s all I needed to see anyway.
Ok so it’s definitely something we can find and work with. We do use
blkid for everything but LVM as it’s just /dev/mapper/name. Perhaps btrfs should be along the same lines where we don’t worry about the uuid, though it might be needed for subvolumes? (not knowledgeable enough to say myself).
You’re in the midst of seeing if/where the installer fails? No pressure on your end but I can push updates fast if you run into anything.
Starting to seem more and more like proper support in the installer for it like LVM would be the best solution, still on the fence though as it’s not something a lot of users are using and not familiar with it myself (but a day or two deep dive isn’t out of question).
this is exactly what i was looking for, as i manage grub from a different system i only need to install, without grub. thank you i will test it out
The UUID will be needed for
genfstab creates a working line.
It won’t let me proceed without formatting the root partition.
Steps so far:
mkfs.btrfs /dev/vda1 mount /dev/vda1 /mnt btrfs subvolume create /mnt/archlabs umount /mnt mount -o subvol=archlabs /dev/vda1 /mnt BOOT_PART='/dev/vda1' ROOT_PART='/dev/vda1' archlabs-installer
Regarding this, the reason I haven’t specified this is that the default location is
/mnt (most people expect this so it makes sense) so you shouldn’t even need to specify.
I still suspect you’ll run into issues during install, they won’t be severe.
Use the new flags in my first reply to this thread need to update the installer with the curl command - v2.1.48
Both accomplish the same for root/boot partitions, just the
-n flag signifies to not bother with partitioning, mounting, or formatting. You’ll know immediately as a background install process will be one of the early dialogs after network.
Ah yes, sorry, I’m distracted by three other forums here
Just used that and it seems to work, installing now…